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30 October 2009

Issue Number:  2009-42

Our 13th Year

 

 

 

~ AROUND THE TABLE ~

 

MEMBERS’ TOPICS IN THIS ISSUE:

 

1.  Stanhope Ring’s “Lost Letter of Midway”

2.  Navy Crosses for the HAG

3.  Promoted to Obscurity

4.  6-B-4

 

 

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1.  STANHOPE RING’S “LOST LETTER OF MIDWAY”   ( see issues #39, 40, 41 )

 

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25 October 2009

From:  CDR Clayton E. Fisher, USN-Ret

Southern California

BOM vet, SBD pilot, VB-8, USS Hornet (CV-8)                                                     

 

A brief comment about the weather.  After the Hornet SBDs were launched and we were climbing out, we were flying through various areas of scattered  to thin overcast clouds.  I remember trying to see the VT-8 flight formation but the cloud coverage at lower altitudes obscured my vision.  As we reached our maximum altitude, we commenced flying in the clear with almost unlimited visibility.  I don't remember observing any cloud coverage although there may have been scattered thin layers of clouds to the west and northwest

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Ed. note:  cloud cover on the morning of June 4th is germane to the issue of how difficult it was to spot the enemy ships while the TF-16 and 17 air groups flew their searches.  More about that in next week’s issue.

 

 

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2.  NAVY CROSSES FOR THE HAG

 

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23 October 2009

From:  Barrett Tillman

Arizona

author, Clash of the Carriers, et al

 

Regarding BOM Navy Crosses:  I compared the BOM to the three-day July '45 Kure strikes and found the following:

 

BOM: 154 Crosses, air/sea/ground
Kure: 170 Crosses (only 5 posthumous)
 
I found the following HAG recipients besides VT-8:
 
Ring
Cook, VF
Fisher, VB
Friesz VB
Gee VB
Groves VF (posthumous)
King VB
Lynch VB
Moore VS
Nickerson VB
White VS (posthumous)
Widhelm VS
 
Here is Ring's BOM citation:

 

RING, STANHOPE COTTON
Citation:
The President of the United States takes pleasure in presenting the Navy Cross to Stanhope Cotton Ring, Commander, U.S. Navy, for extraordinary heroism in operations against the enemy while serving as Pilot of a carrier-based Navy Combat Plane and Group Commander of Air Group EIGHT (AG-8), embarked from the U.S.S. HORNET (CV-8), during the Battle of Midway on 6 June 1942. Commander Ring led his carrier air group against enemy cruisers and destroyers, coolly and methodically, in the face of heavy antiaircraft fire. Without regard for his own safety, he drove home a successful attack on the enemy carriers. His outstanding courage and determined skill were at all times inspiring and in keeping with the highest traditions of the United States Naval Service.
Bureau of Naval Personnel Information Bulletin No. 308 (November 1942)
Born: October 13, 1902 at Norfolk, Virginia
Home Town: Coronado, California

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Ed. note:  just about any Roundtable member should be able to spot a couple of remarkable assertions in the above citation, mainly that Ring “drove home a successful attack on the enemy carriers,” and that he did so on “6 June 1942.”  Clearly, “carriers” here should have been “ships” or some such if the citation is supposed to relate to Ring’s June 6th sortie.

 

 

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3.   PROMOTED TO OBSCURITY   ( see issue #41 )

 

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23 October 2009

From:  RADM D. M. (Mac) Showers, USN-Ret

Virginia

BOM vet, intel analyst, Combat Intelligence Unit, Pearl Harbor

 

You note in your article that Miles Browning was "promoted to rear admiral upon retirement."   That was not a promotion in the true sense of the word; it's called a "tombstone promotion."   It was accorded to any retiring captain who served in WW2 and received a combat decoration.   So, it was really a bonus for earning the decoration rather than a promotion.   They are called "tombstone admirals."  I would have to believe that most of them are now deceased.  And, incidentally, they retired on captain's pay; the "admiral" title was purely honorary.

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4.  6-B-4

 

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26 October 2009

From:  BGEN William L. Shields, USAF-Ret

Arizona

 

Air Force magazine, October 2009, p. 80, presents a short background article on the SBD.  The illustration shows an aircraft numbered B 4, assigned to VB-6 in 1942.  Perhaps one of the members can make a more detailed identification of this airplane.

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Ed. note:  the following applies to VB-6’s no. 4 SBD during the BOM, which is not necessarily “B-4” during other battles.  First, we can find it listed with its Bureau No. on Chris Hawkinson’s BOM web site.  Then, the tables in Peter Smith’s Midway Dauntless Victory show us that the plane only flew on June 5th, during the Tanikaze incident.  See pages 106, 205, 225, and 236 in the Smith book, plus p. 102 in A Glorious Page In Our History.  Can anyone else comment on the background of this particular aircraft or on any other “B-4” of VB-6?

 

 

 

 

 

~ NOW HEAR THIS! ~

 

NEWS & INFO IN THIS ISSUE:

 

-  Link of the Week

-  Editor’s Notes

 

 

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LINK OF THE WEEK

 

By now just about all of you have seen John Ford’s Battle of Midway film at least once.  But I just received a link to a version of it that you likely have never seen, newly restored and in high resolution.  Although I’ve watched the film many times over the years, watching this one was like seeing it for the first time.  For everyone with a high-speed broadband connection, you won’t want to miss it.

 

Here are a couple of hints for watching this particular production.  First, it starts with a brief pizza commercial (someone has to pay the bills).  Then, to watch it in maximum resolution, click the “HQ” button in the lower right corner, which toggles between normal and wide screen.  Also, click the unlabeled flashing red triangle to the right of the HQ button, which gives you a full screen view.  Press the ESC key to exit full screen.

 

Here are some interesting comments that accompanied the message I received with the link:

 

When Ford viewed the rushes that he had taken at Midway -- the massive explosions, the debris slamming into the camera, the spectacular raising of the flag amongst black clouds of ruin -- he knew he had something special.  But in a way, the material was too good -- sure to be heavily redacted by the Navy as too frightful and disturbing for public consumption.  So in Washington soon after the battle, the wily director secretly passed the reels to one of his young field photo editors, the former child actor Robert Parrish, and asked him to cut it down to a decent twenty-minute documentary.  "Is it for the public or the OSS ?" Parrish asked.

 

"It's for the mothers of America ," Ford shot back. "It's to let them know that we're in a war, and that we've been getting the #### kicked out of us for five months, and now we're starting to hit back."

 

I’ve added this remarkable find to the “Links” page on our web site, so you’ll be able to find it again whenever you want.

 

Click here for the link of the week

 

Thanks to RADM Tom Brown (USN-Ret) of the San Francisco BOM Commemoration Committee.

 

 

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EDITOR’S NOTES

 

~  Sharp-eyed Roundtable members should have spotted another flaw in Stanhope Ring’s Navy Cross citation above, the mention of “Air Group 8” during the BOM.  That type of nomenclature was valid at the time the citation was written, long after the battle, which explains why it was written that way.  But there really was no such thing as numbered air groups in the USN in June 1942.  At Midway the Hornet air group was, in fact, the “Hornet Air Group” (HAG), which is why Ring has gone down in history at the “CHAG” rather than something like CAG-8.

 

 


 

 

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